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Mar 3rd, 2006, 11:58 AM
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parellel universes
do they really exist?
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Mar 3rd, 2006, 2:47 PM
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In my opinion no. I think this because if everything is ment to be opposite then isnt death opposite to life well thats what i think anyway. Wat do you think skynet 12
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Mar 3rd, 2006, 3:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Skynet12
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the only thing I know for now, is that quantum theory talks about that. so if somebody knows about that, your welcome to help.
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Mar 3rd, 2006, 6:13 PM
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This is where I step in! lol, Yes I believe they do exist. I believe in membrane theory this is just an extension of string theory, instead of string's imagine a huge membrane which permeates, envelops everthing and basically makes up the known universe. Theory predicts that they can come in many shapes and forms but the most obvious form is that of a bubble or that of a donut ring. These membranes ripple and when they come into contact with other membranes they create an off-shoot universe, the matter within it being created by the rippling of the membrane touching down upon the fabric of space. So membrane theory suggest's that there are an infinate number of these "membrane" universes, as soon as the universe is created it seperates from the other, it can occupy the same space yet be in a different dimension so that it does not impose on other's. However I say this, it could explain a few paranormal event's such as portal's, ghosts etc. this could be where the universes of varying sizes and which occupy different dimensions cross over and come into our universe for a period of time, so theoretically there are an infinate number of universe's all with their different laws of physics etc. statistically there are a number of these parallel universe's not too disimilar than our own, if not containing exact duplicates of ourselves, every posibillity you could imagine, every event and turnout could exist in a different universe. just think in one Jake99 is actually the "real" Messiah!! lol.
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Mar 3rd, 2006, 7:53 PM
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Many Dimensions makes perfect sense ..... with one Dimension reserved for Heaven and another for Hell .....
Maybe nobody really dies ...... we're just all travelling through the differant universes .....
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Mar 5th, 2006, 4:07 PM
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Membrane theory doesn't allow the interaction between dimensions. Also, membrane theory is not an extension of string theory, they are both completely different.
But you did touch on a possible explanation on why people see ghosts. Let me expand on that. Think of it this way: a lower dimensional being cannot see a higher dimensional being in its natural form. Imagine a paper on your desk and draw a single dot. Let's make this dot a 1-D being and call it Frank. Now draw another dot in front of it and call it Joe, another 1-D being. Frank cannot get passed Joe because it can only see and move in one dimension; forward. To get passed Joe, Frank needs to move to the side, but now it would behave like a 2-D being. Make Frank a 2-D being for now. Frank is now able to get passed Joe as it can move to the side. Joe, however, will only see him disappear and it will not see him appear behind. We conclude that Frank, a 2-D being, can see a lower dimension being, but Joe, a one dimensional being cannot see a higher dimensional being.
Now Frank sees you, the creator, as a 2 dimensional being also, moving from side to side. Frank however cannot see you on top of him because that would require him to see up, in yet another direction; he would have to be a 3-D being. You however, are able to see both Frank and Joe because they are lower dimensional beings. Similarly, we "might see ghosts" because they walk by our dimension while remaining in theirs. This doesn't mean that they are part of another universe. It is our own universe but at a higher state.
That's my best shot at the ghosts’ phenomenon. Just remember that we are blind forever to the physical existence of higher spatial dimensions because we are 3-D beings.
There seem to be quite a few explanations for extra dimensions; of course, the ever so popular M-theory which suggests 11 of them seems to be the most exiting at the moment. But these dimensions are not like our own. They are extremely small. It also seems very unlikely that we will ever be able to examine such dimensions due to the sizes in question (can you say Planck length?). Consequently, life is nonexistent there. Extra dimensions on the order of 5th and up seem to be only for mathematical value rather than exploration and explanation of the unknown. Even with advances in new theories and with new findings, uncertainty is still very strong when talking about extra dimensions.
Now, it is true that there are talks about parallel universes, especially where every possible outcome is the root of another history, and thus another universe. But I think that one is a really far-fetched one. muahaha!
Interesting stuff nonetheless
PS. I don't believe in ghosts.
Last edited by WaR; Mar 5th, 2006 at 4:18 PM.
Reason: Forgot headbang smiley :)
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Mar 6th, 2006, 9:05 AM
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Some good theories! i may sound a bit narrow minded, and not using any evidence. But I think I wouled have to agree with loganosborne.
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Mar 6th, 2006, 9:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WaR
Let's make this dot a 1-D being and call it Frank. Now draw another dot in front of it and call it Joe, another 1-D being.
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Hey, I think I know those guys.....
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Mar 7th, 2006, 2:02 AM
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I don't just believe parrellel universes exist, I know they exist.
You others may lack being able to remember things prior to your birth. But I can remember as though it were yesterday all the annoying times I was brought into another existence only to share the same kind of torture and suffering all over again, but as a different person.
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Mar 7th, 2006, 2:33 AM
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Bummer.........Anyway, welcome back! One more spin on the wheel of samsara, one more opportunity to maybe get it right this time! You have a massive advantage in being able to consciously recall your previous errors, that should make attaining enlightenment in this lifetime a snack. You are truly blessed.
Regards. Now.
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Mar 7th, 2006, 8:50 PM
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Parallel universes don't exist. There is no such thing as the geometric concept of parallelity when one transcends the boundaries of the universe, so if you had two seperate universes it wouldn't make any sense to claim they're parallel. Now, if you're talking about multiple universes (an phrase which assaults the roots of the word universe, but a meaningful use of the word nonetheless), then we have no way of knowing right now. It's very well a possibility, but then again so is waking up in the morning to find out that a magical pink witch had turned you into a chicken and your wife into a fox (such are the games you play with as-of-yet unfalsifieable concepts such as multiple universes).
But, on an interesting note, decoherence is becoming quite the trend among other interpretations of quantum mechanics.
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Mar 8th, 2006, 7:48 AM
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All im saying is: i throurougly agree!
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Mar 8th, 2006, 8:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Keeblergiant
Parallel universes don't exist. There is no such thing as the geometric concept of parallelity when one transcends the boundaries of the universe, so if you had two seperate universes it wouldn't make any sense to claim they're parallel. Now, if you're talking about multiple universes (an phrase which assaults the roots of the word universe, but a meaningful use of the word nonetheless), then we have no way of knowing right now. It's very well a possibility, but then again so is waking up in the morning to find out that a magical pink witch had turned you into a chicken and your wife into a fox (such are the games you play with as-of-yet unfalsifieable concepts such as multiple universes).
But, on an interesting note, decoherence is becoming quite the trend among other interpretations of quantum mechanics.
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Agree with you
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Mar 8th, 2006, 10:21 PM
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Okay, I have to admit, when it comes to parallel universes and things of the sort, I get a little confused. Now correct me if I am wrong (which I will wholeheartedly agree I probably am) but does any of this have to do with dimensions? You know how there is somewhat of a controversy about all of the dimensions? I know it's a juvenile book, but in "A Wrinkle in Time" the author discusses what is know as "THe Fifth Dimension" which is, to my understanding, an actual finding. Now, does this have anything at all to do with a parallel universe? I'm not sure if you are all referring to something such as heaven or something like aliens living millions of lightyears in an opposite universe. I suppose I am being somewhat of a dimwit.
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Mar 9th, 2006, 8:02 AM
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Yes, i believe dimensions are the 'sectors', in which different times and space are 'held in place', so, yes, if there was such a thing, they wouled ahev everything to do with it.
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